yard. I was also bucked and put in the yard. The charge against me is desertion. I am from Lousiana.
Question. Have you been tried by court-martial?
Answer. No, sir.
Question. How long have you been in prison?
Answer. Only one month the last time. I have escaped three or four times.
THURSDAY, April 16, 1863.
The examination of witnesses was resumed.
V. T. CRAWFORD sworn:
I am located in Richmond and am a practicing lawyer. I was admitted to the bar some eight months ago. I know nothing of he treatment of the prisoners confined in Castle Thunder, but I do know something of the conduct of its officers' [towards those] who are called upon to visit the prison in a professional way. After I had visited the prison once or twice without interruption obstacles began to be thrown in my way. First, an order forbidding conversation between myself and clients without a third person in the shape of an officer being present. At another time I was refused admittance beyond the guard and all the conversation I could hold with my clients had to be carried on through a wire gauze screen. At another time Mr. Ward informed me I would have to get an official permit from General Winder to see prisoners. I went to General Winder for the pass and after some delay I was furnished with a general pass which had to be renewed on the occasion of every visit. General Winder asked me about the prisoners I wished to see, and said there were some men there whom they did not wish to have consul. I asked him what men? And he replied, "We have our rights and you yours, " and something more which I do not recollect. I have continued visiting the prison up to Tuesday last on a pas to be admitted at the discretion of the commandant. Day before yesterday I wrote out a pass to admit me to an interview with two prisoners, George Summers and Lieutenant George Brown. I carried it to Captain Winder in a back room at the headquarters and he signed it. Both of the men sent letters requesting to see me six days after that. I never got the letter. Inquired and found he had given it to Mr. Allen who said he had handed it to Mr. Ward to forward to General Winder. Went t but found no letter there. Eight or ten days after that the letter reached me.
Question (by the CHAIRMAN OF THE COMMITTEE). Did Captain Alexander obstruct your intercourse with the prisoners?
Answer. He told me to do my speaking to them through the guard.
Question. Did he know your visit were professional ones?
Answer. Yes; he was well aware of that fact.
Question. Were not some of your clients citizens?
Answer. Yes; one. A man named Weeks; was citizens of London or Fauguier. He was finally tried and discharged after an imprisonment of four or five months.
Question. Do you know anything else bearing on the subject before the committee?
Answer. I know another affair which first raised my suspicions. I was called professionally to see a soldier named Miller belonging to Captain Thornton's company, of Caroline County. I agreed to undertake his case for $50, and he said he would give that. Miller was discharged and when I saw him he said Mr. Ward had told him not pay me the $50 fee, as he (Mr. Ward) had done more for him than I had. Previous to this Miller told War to keep a note-for $65 and give it to me. I inquired for the note of Mr. Ward and it was not to be found.
Question. Did Miller pay Mr. Ward?
Answer. I cannot say that he did.
Mr. WARD (to the committee). I deny the statement Mr. Crawford has made. He called on me on one occasion and desired that I should solicit practice for him, or in other words take advantage of my position to drum up clients for him at the Castle. He said he understood